Critique of Parousia #15

A Critique of Parousia #15

Introduction ~ 4 paragraphs

The Problem ~ 6 paragraphs

An Overview of Daniel 7 and Revelation 10-11

An Overview of Daniel 7 ~ 2 paragraphs

An Overview of Revelation 10-11 ~ 2 paragraphs

The Temporal Sequence of the Events of Revelation 10-11 ~ 2 paragraphs

Proofs for the Timing of Revelation 10-11

The Strategic Placement of the Three Woes ~ 2 paragraphs

The Significance of the Three Woes ~ 3 paragraphs

The Unique Length of the Ministry of the Two Witnesses ~ 1 paragraph

The Termination of the Gentile Dominance over Jerusalem ~ 2 paragraphs

The Delay Ended and the Mystery of God Completed ~ 4 paragraphs

The Completion of the Mystery of God ~ 13 paragraphs

God’s Reclamation of the Earth ~ 7 paragraphs

First Proof: A Direct Statement ~ 1 paragraph

Second Proof: A Hostile Response of the Nations ~ 1 paragraph

Third Proof: The Wrath of God Comes ~ 1 paragraph

Fourth Proof: The Time to Judge the Righteous Dead Comes ~ 1 paragraph

Fifth Proof: The Time to Reward the Faithful Comes ~ 1 paragraph

Sixth Proof: The Time to Destroy the Destroyers Came ~ 1 paragraph

Conclusion ~ 1 paragraph

In a newsletter entitled Parousia put out by Sign Ministries, Charles Cooper has written a series of articles under the subtitle “Prophetic Pillars of the Prewrath Position”.  Parousia #15 contains the fourth pillar in the series which has the heading GOD ALMIGHTY TAKES BACK HIS RULE OF EARTH AFTER THE SEVENTIETH WEEK, BUT BEFORE ARMAGEDDON.  This clearly shows Cooper’s intent to order certain events in the book of Revelation.  The questions being raised are as follows.  Does Cooper arrange the events of Revelation in a way that will withstand scrutiny?  Are there other arrangements that are just as viable?  Is this arrangement that Cooper presents a “pillar” of the Prewrath position?  Is it truly necessary to embrace Cooper’s conclusions to be a part of the Prewrath position?

First off, let me say that I wholeheartedly agree with the Prewrath Rapture position.  The rapture occurs after the great tribulation, during the sixth seal, and before the Day of the LORD and the wrath of God as contained in the seven trumpets and seven bowls of Revelation.  The point of question concerns the chronological placement of the bowls outside of the scope of Daniel’s 70th week.  Is there clear scriptural evidence presented in Cooper’s thesis to place the seven bowls of Revelation 16 in the 30 days that follow the 1260 days which comprise the last half of Daniel’s 70th week?  The outline above will serve as a map to help maneuver through his argumentation.  For those interested in reading Cooper’s article, click on the following link.

In Cooper’s introduction, he sets forth the idea of God reclaiming the earth for His own purposes.  He cites Daniel 7:27 as a point of fact that God will reclaim the earth.  In the section titled The Problem, he relays different viewpoints concerning how Revelation 11:15-18 relate to the chronology of God’s reclamation of the earth.  He cites different authors who all maintain that this mention of the kingdoms of the world becoming the kingdoms of God and of Christ is out of place in the overall chronology of Revelation.  He states that he disagrees and sets out to prove that this mention of earth’s reclamation occurs right here at the seventh trumpet and is not out of chronological order.

In the section titled An Overview of Daniel 7 and Revelation 10-11, Cooper sets forth the similar language and identical timelines of Daniel 7 and Revelation 10-11.  One thing of note is a general statement that Revelation 14:1-19:21 is a section which pictures the destruction of antichrist and his kingdom.  This leaves out the idea of a Prewrath Rapture as pictured in Revelation 14:14-16 which Dr. Alan Hultberg has set forth in the book Three Views on the Rapture.  So not only is there destruction in this section of Revelation, there is salvation for the church from God’s wrath.  In the section on Daniel 7, Cooper relies on a strictly chronological reading to conclude that The Ancient of Days takes His seat before the antichrist is destroyed.  This seems to try to set up an argument for allowing the seventh trumpet to depict the reclamation of the earth with the destruction of antichrist occurring during the bowls after that.  But he does not emphasize that the same passage in Daniel 7 shows that it is only after the destruction of the beast (and little horn) that the Son of Man was given a dominion and kingdom which will not pass away.  So is the evidence here in favor of Cooper’s future argumentation or against it?  If Daniel 7 is strictly chronological, the evidence is against his argumentation since the timing he is setting out to prove is that of the reclamation of the earth by way of the kingdoms of this world becoming the kingdoms of our God and of His Christ as mentioned in Revelation 11:15.  Daniel 7:11 occurs showing the destruction of the beast and then Daniel 7:14 occurs as the Son of Man receives the kingdom.  The Ancient of Days taking His seat is simply a preemptive order by the Father that the time has come.  After this order, the beast is destroyed and then the messianic kingdom begins.

Cooper then moves into the Overview of Revelation 10-11 which serves as a bridge to The Temporal Sequence of Revelation 10-11.  In this brief section, he mentions that the events of Revelation 11:15-18 occur before the destruction of the antichrist without offering any proof.  It is assumed that the proof will be forthcoming in future sections.  One thing that he fails to expound upon is what he means by the recommissioning of John as he eats the scroll which makes his belly bitter.  Most understand this to mean that John will prophesy again, meaning he will see the events occur one more time with more information.  The events beginning in Revelation 12 show these re-visions, or re-prophesyings.  Cooper then states without citing any scriptural parallels that the events of Revelation 10-11 occur within the 30 days which follow Daniel’s 70th week.  Cooper states that the sixth trumpet will conclude Daniel’s 70th week with the reclamation of the earth occurring in the first 30 days of a 75 day period which is posited after Daniel’s 70th week and before the 1000 year reign of Christ.  The focus here is on a passage in Daniel 12:11-12 which shows a 1290 day period, but also a 1335 day period.  It is agreed that there is a 75 day period following the 1260 days which constitute the last half of Daniel’s 70th week, but Cooper must prove that the 1260th day occurs as a part of the sixth trumpet, and that the bowls are located in that 30 day period which follows.

In the section titled The Strategic Placement of the Three Woes, Cooper makes some assertions which affect future chronological placements.  He asserts that the three woes are the fifth, sixth, and seventh trumpets citing Revelation 8:13.  But then he moves to other assertions which he cites no scriptures to prove.  The first is that the seventh trumpet consists of the seven bowls.  It is assumed that he will have argumentation forthcoming.  The second is that there must be a chronological sequence to the seals, trumpets, and bowls.  He believes that because the three woes are unparalleled with the first six seals and first four trumpets, that no parallel chronology can occur between the seals, trumpets, and bowls.  He simply asserts this without providing any proof.  Note that I am in agreement that the three woes occur in chronological order.  The difference of opinion is that I see no direct connection between the third woe and the beginning of the bowl sequence.

In the section titled The Significance of the Three Woes, Cooper is already building upon an assertion which he has yet to prove.  He has asserted that the seals, trumpets, and bowls are chronological which leads him to believe that the seventh trumpet occurs after the 70th week of Daniel.  He builds his case on the ministry of the two witnesses which he sees as ministering during the last half of Daniel’s 70th week.  In Cooper’s view, the two witnesses minister for 1260 days, which is the last half of Daniel’s 70th week, then they ascend at the second woe which is the sixth trumpet.  This means that the seventh trumpet occurs after this time since the three woes occur chronologically.  In this section there is an expanded assertion that the third woe is essentially the seven bowls rather than in just the seventh trumpet, but no scripture is cited.

This naturally leads into the section titled The Unique Length of the Ministry of the Two Witnesses.  In this section Cooper points out that each mention of a 3 ½ year period of time in the book of Revelation is always the last half of Daniel’s 70th week.  He states that there is no significant debate that this is so and that the burden of proof rests on those who assert otherwise.  So he provides absolutely no interaction whatsoever with any other views here.  In his mind, the two witnesses prophesy during the last half of Daniel’s 70th week and that’s the end of the matter.  Alan Hultberg provides argumentation in Three Views on the Rapture in his response to Moo’s posttrib rapture position that the two witnesses prophesy during the first half of Daniel’s 70th week.  Interacting with a view like this would be helpful for Cooper.  Since he states that the burden of proof rests on the opposing view, it rests on me in this critique to provide that evidence.  I will argue two points, the first being that the two witnesses may very well prophesy during the first half of Daniel’s 70th week, and second, even if the two witnesses ascend into heaven at the second woe, this does not prove that the seventh trumpet must occur after the ending of Daniel’s 70th week.

First, when do the two witnesses begin their ministry?  Cooper fails to point out in his article that beginning in Revelation 10, the chronology of the seven trumpets and three woes is temporarily interrupted.  For instance, it is inconceivable even in the mind of Cooper that the sixth trumpet is sounded, and then sometime after that is when the two witnesses begin their ministry.  The chronology will resume, but at what point?  Surely it at least resumes at Revelation 11:14, but do the two witnesses ascend in conjunction with that second woe, or is John still seeing events that occur outside the chronology of the seven trumpets?  In order to better understand the timing of the two witnesses, we need to understand the old testament background of the coming forerunners of the LORD.

In Malachi 3:1 we have reference to the coming of the messenger of the covenant in preparation for the LORD who will come suddenly to the temple.  This messenger is someone that is delighted in by the Israelites.  Given the background of Mal. 2:4-9 which focuses on the covenant with the Levites and priests, the focus should lead us to the one who received the Levitical laws from the LORD on Mount Sinai.  Just after the description of the coming of this messenger of the covenant, the object of his coming is explained.  He comes to purify the sons of Levi like a refiner’s fire, Mal. 3:2-4.  This purification is in advance of a judgment by the LORD, Mal. 3:5.  The messenger of the covenant in whom the Israelites delight seems to refer to a Moses like personage who will turn the Levitical priesthood back to God before the Day of the LORD.  Later in Mal. 4:1-3, we see that the Day of the LORD will consist of the righteous [which have been restored before this point in time] treading down the wicked.  The admonition in Mal. 4:4 points out that the Israelites would be pointed back to the law of Moses.  Then there is the prophecy which receives so much attention, that of the coming of Elijah before the Day of the LORD.  This coming of Elijah is also preparatory for the nation of Israel.  This Elijah personage will turn the hearts of the fathers to the children and children to the fathers so that when the LORD comes (the rising of the Sun of righteousness) the land of Israel will be spared the curse, Mal. 4:5-6.  Even if one disagrees with my presentation of Mal. 3:1-5, the point must still be taken that Elijah’s ministry is preparatory for the children of Israel.

So we see that two personages must come to the nation of Israel, one possibly to the temple, and have an ongoing ministry that prepares the nation of Israel for the Day of the LORD.  The idea of the restoration of the Levitical priesthood should be acceptable to those who believe in the perpetuation of the Davidic Covenant through Jesus Christ, see Jeremiah 33:14-22 to view these two ideas permanently linked together.  So where in the chronology of Revelation do we find a group of Israelites that might represent this purified Levitical remnant?  The 144,000 of Revelation 7:1-8 and 14:1-5 are chronologically placed as being sealed at the rapture of the church.  This occurs as the great tribulation is being cut short but before the wrath of God is poured out.  So the ministry of Moses and Elijah should have been completed by this time.  The Levites will have been purged and the hearts of the children and fathers will be restored to prepare a people ready for the LORD, see Luke 1:17.  When we read about the ministry of the two witnesses in Revelation 11:3-13, we already know that the chronology of the seven trumpets and three woes has been interrupted.  The previous evidence should assist us in the chronological placement of their ministry.

The common denominator of Revelation 11:1-2 (the godly remnant worshiping at the temple) and Revelation 11:3-13 (the ministry of the two witnesses) is found in Mal. 3-4.  John is commanded to measure the temple because found within is an Israelite remnant righteously worshiping the LORD.  The outer courts are not included because they are given to the Gentiles.  Now we have the reference that the holy city, Jerusalem, will be trampled for 42 months.  This shows us the final 42 months of Gentile domination over Jerusalem during the last half of Daniel’s 70th week.  The references to Jerusalem in Revelation 11:8, 13 also show a time period during the last half of Daniel’s 70th week.  But, in preparation for that 42 months of trampling, the Israelite remnant needs to be prepared.  Moses and Elijah, or two men operating in the spirit and power of Moses and Elijah come to the temple ministering for a full 1260 days for this preparation.  Note that their description which is derived from Zechariah 4 is centered around temple imagery (the lampstand) in a time when the rebuilding of the temple was paramount.  They minister in spite of resistance from apostate Israelites.  They strike the earth with plagues to bring Israel back to the LORD as in the days of Elijah.  When Moses first poured out water on the ground turning it into blood, it was for the purpose of proving to the Israelites that God had validated his ministry as prophet, Exodus 4:9, 30-31.  This is the miracle that is mentioned by name in Revelation 11:6.  The plagues here are of a different nature than those of the trumpets and bowls.  They can be considered to be a part of the refiner’s fire of Mal. 3:2-3.  Some aspects of these plagues will affect the world at large, just as the plagues of Moses affected Egypt as they stood in the way of God’s plan for Israel.  Considering the 1260 days of ministry of the two witnesses to be in the first half of Daniel’s 70th week, naturally leading into the 42 months of Gentile trampling, is not out of the question.  The death of the two witnesses seems to fit better during the great tribulation rather than during the Day of the LORD since the earth dwellers take advantage of the opportunity for an extended holiday.  This is highly unlikely while they are being smitten with the trumpet plagues.

But let us say that there is a good case that the two witnesses ascend at the second woe sometime during the sixth trumpet.  Does this mean that the seventh trumpet must occur after the 7 year period known as Daniel’s 70th week?  The angel of Revelation 10 stated that when the seventh angel sounded [the seventh trumpet] there would be no more delay.  When we see the second woe proclaimed as over, the third woe is stated to be soon to come.  So let’s get real specific here since this is necessary.  If the two witnesses ascend on the 1260th day, the seventh trumpet could also sound on the 1260th day.  We don’t know the exact length of time between the trumpets including the length of time between the sixth and seventh trumpets.  The sixth trumpet sounds, later the two witnesses ascend, the second woe is past with the third woe coming quickly, and the seventh trumpet blows the same day that the second woe is past.  Some would say that the three and one half days that the two witnesses lie dead follows the 1260 days, but this is without examining other possibilities.  For instance, the 1260 days, if one still holds to their ministry being in the last half of Daniel’s 70th week, could be considered 1260 days total, including the time of their miracles, plague smiting, lying dead in the street, and an undetermined amount of time in their resurrection bodies to show themselves alive.  So there is no iron clad case that the seventh trumpet sounds after Daniel’s 70th week is past based on an examination of Revelation 10-11 in conjunction with the three woes.

Now to continue with an examination of the remainder of Cooper’s article, we move into his citation of the end of Gentile dominance over Jerusalem.  Cooper points out that Gentile dominance was in effect for the 490 years of Daniel 9:24 and would continue until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled according to Luke 21:24.  But then he asserts that this end must occur between the sixth and seventh trumpets.  He does not examine the language of the seventh trumpet as of yet, but I believe his future examination will show that the end of Gentile dominance should be placed at the seventh trumpet and not before.  He cites no scripture to show that at the sixth trumpet is when Jerusalem is liberated.  This brings up another point concerning the two witnesses.  Cooper is not clear in this particular article as to exactly when he believes the two witnesses are killed, but if he believes that the two witnesses are killed on the 1260th day, with the next day being the day that Jerusalem is liberated from Gentile dominion, he would have to explain how the two witnesses could lie dead in the street for 3 ½ days in the very city that Jesus is reclaiming all the while as the world rejoices.  It is stated in Revelation 11:9 that the people of the nations would not allow their bodies to be placed in graves showing that Gentile dominion is still in effect during the entire 3 ½ day period.  Surely this view would need to be seriously examined.

In his section titled The Delay Ended and the Mystery of God Completed, Cooper examines Revelation 10 and makes a determination that what is meant by the statement of the strong angel is a reference to the seven bowls.  To understand how he would take this announcement and jump over four chapter requires us to accept several things without question.  He states that the delay spoken of is the delay of vengeance on behalf of the martyrs of the fifth seal.  He fails to see that the prayers of the saints were held in abeyance until Revelation 8:3-5.  At this time the angel with the golden censer offered these prayers before the LORD, then threw the censer into the earth signifying that the time of vengeance had now come with the sounding of the seven trumpets.  So the delay in vengeance was only until the censer was cast into the earth which signified the beginning of the wrath of God on behalf of the church.

In the third paragraph of this section is when Cooper makes the first attempt to back his assertion that the seven bowls follow the seventh trumpet.  He tries to link the Greek word for “avenging” in Revelation 6:10 with the same in Revelation 19:2.  His point is in trying to focus on the vengeance upon the judgment of Babylon in whom is found the blood of the saints which he links back to the fifth seal.  But Cooper makes an erroneous statement here.  He states that the first mention of the judgment upon Babylon is at the seventh bowl and further explained in Revelation 17-18.  He has overlooked the judgment being proclaimed much earlier in Revelation 14:8.  There must be time before the end of the age for Babylon to burn and to be mourned by the merchants and kings of the earth.  This destruction will occur at God’s direction but vicariously through the hand of the ten kings, Revelation 17:16-17.  The events of Revelation 14:6-9 can be placed within the great tribulation, as the gospel is being preached in the midst of persecution, and as those who have taken the mark of the beast are being warned of its eternal consequences.  The placement of the burning of Babylon with the events of Revelation 14 gives time for the mourning of the world’s special lady to occur, but also allows a supernatural judgment by God at the seventh bowl whereby Babylon will be thrown into the sea to be found no more, Revelation 18:21-24.

In the section titled The Completion of the Mystery of God, Cooper focuses on the church as proof that the sixth trumpet ends Daniel’s 70th week and begins the 75 day period which follows.  This constitutes the lengthiest section in his article.  He believes that the mystery of God that will be completed is the church which is referred to as a mystery in passages such as Colossians 1:26, 2:2, and Ephesians 1:9.  But you need to understand that the passage that he is citing is Revelation 10:6-7 which states that the mystery of God would be fulfilled.  Notice that the timing for the fulfillment of this mystery is at the seventh trumpet.  But Cooper only quotes part of the passage and I quote him directly here to show how he specifically left a portion out, “It says, “…there will be delay no longer…then the mystery of God is finished, as He preached to His servants the prophets.”  ” Now why does he specifically leave out the timing of the seventh trumpet?  It is because he has to prove that the sixth trumpet brings Daniel’s 70th week to an end, not the seventh trumpet.  So all throughout the remainder of this section, the reader will be directed again and again to the sixth trumpet as finishing the mystery of God, but the ardent student of the word will realize that Revelation 10:6-7 is speaking of the seventh trumpet.

Is the mystery spoken of in these 13 paragraphs written by Cooper to be understood as the church?  Cooper would lead us to believe that.  But he overlooks the fact that the very passages that he cites pointing to the church as a mystery, paint it as a mystery in ages past, but presently revealed now to us, Colossians 1:26.  He also cites Romans 11:25-26 which focuses on the current hardening of the physical nation of Israel while the fullness of the Gentiles is accomplished.  This allows him to back up to Daniel 9:24-27 and assert that the salvation of Israel cannot occur until the 490 years is complete.  He sets forth argumentation that the current Gentile salvation and the salvation of the nation of Israel will culminate at the sixth trumpet.  This is in opposition to Rosenthal’s view that these two events occur at the sixth seal.  Cooper sets forth the idea that the sixth seal may seem like a good place at first for this to occur, but he concludes that because Gentiles are saved after the rapture that the sixth trumpet is a better place.  Rosenthal’s argumentation is set forth in The Pre-Wrath Rapture of the Church in the chapter titled The 144,000 and a Great Multitude No Man Could Number.  Cooper does not consider that the entire 490 years need not be completely exhausted before the nation of Israel comes to repentance and experiences salvation.  The sealing of the 144,000 at the sixth seal shows that the nation of Israel can experience God’s salvation before Daniel’s 70th week reaches an end.  I find Cooper’s claim that the mystery is the church to be without justification and the timing of the sixth trumpet to have the two issues listed above.  One, the mystery is concluded at the seventh trumpet, not the sixth, whatever mystery that may be, and two, the timing of the handing off of the baton (Rosenthal’s wording) occurs at the sixth seal.  More could be said of the idea of the salvation of Israel occurring at the completion of the salvation of the Gentiles, but in light of Gentile salvation occurring all throughout the millennial kingdom, see Isaiah 49:22-23, 60:1-5, 62:1-2 with Revelation 21:24-26, I see Cooper’s proof of Gentile salvation after the rapture to be lacking.

This leads us to the question, what could this end times mystery be?  Is there a passage in scripture which tells of a mystery yet to be revealed in conjunction with an end times prophecy?  The answer is yes.  II Thessalonians 2:7 speaks of the mystery of lawlessness set to be revealed at the time that the restraining influence is taken out of the way.  The entire passage is referring to the Day of the LORD preceded by the eschatological antichrist.  Rosenthal has set forth the idea that Michael the archangel is the unnamed restrainer in this passage.  But allow me to expand on this idea.  The exact vehicle through which angelic beings provide this restraining influence is outlined in the book of Daniel.  In Daniel 10:13, 20-21 it is envisioned by way of Gabriel that the angels operate in heavenly places through the empires and kingdoms of this world, otherwise known as the governmental structures that God has ordained.  Note also how Gabriel affirms that he was the one that confirmed Darius in his position of authority at the beginning of the Medo-Persian Empire, Daniel 11:1.  Some scholars have surmised that the restraining influence in II Thess. 2:7 is human government.  It need not be either/or.  It is Michael the archangel restraining lawlessness through human government.  Once the restrainer is taken out of the way, then lawlessness will prevail through a lawless (lacking God’s holy laws) ten kingdom empire headed by the man of sin.  This is the mystery of iniquity.  God uses sinful human government to restrain evil.  But this will be a thing of the past at the seventh trumpet when the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of Christ.  Further, I believe this will be the time when the veil spread over the nations will be swallowed up, Isaiah 25:7.  But this all occurs at the seventh trumpet which brings Daniel’s 70th week to a close, not the sixth trumpet.  Overall, my position of the seventh trumpet mystery being the mystery of iniquity fits quite nicely with the seventh trumpet announcements while Cooper’s view could lead to seventh trumpet rapturism which is a form of posttrib.

Now Cooper examines the contents of the announcements at the seventh trumpet.  In the section titled God’s Reclamation of the Earth, he states that the seventh trumpet is where the aorist verbs indicate that the reclaiming of the earth by God occurs.  I would agree with him if I were beginning the article at this point.  But Cooper has built on a foundation which leads us to believe that Daniel’s 70th week is over and we are in a new time period.  But as I have demonstrated above, this is a faulty foundation.  The seventh trumpet brings Daniel’s 70th week to an end, not the sixth trumpet.  In no way has Cooper proven the relationship of the bowl judgments to the seventh trumpet.  So I concur as I read his position on how the aorist verbs show that an event has just transpired, that of the kingdoms of this world becoming the kingdoms of our God and of His Christ.  I am in agreement with Cooper’s initial assertion at the beginning of his article.  I do not believe this announcement is misplaced in the least.  It is quite appropriately placed right here at the end of Daniel’s 70th week.

There are only two more places in Cooper’s article where he attempts to link the bowls to this period of time which follows Daniel’s 70th week.  In the section titled Third Proof: The Wrath of God Comes, Cooper expounds on the mention of the wrath of God in Revelation 11:18 and then links the bowls which he terms are “the end of the wrath of God”.  It is conceded that the bowls are indeed the end of the wrath of God, but the trumpets also are God’s wrath with their end being the seventh trumpet.  The aorist here gives no indication of the time, only the fact of the event, as Cooper states.  So the announcement that the wrath of God came gives no indication of a future event, but only the fact of the event.  Revelation has many sections where the chronology backs up to explain events again, or describe events that are occurring at the same time as events just described.  Notably is Revelation 12-13 which re-describes the events of the great tribulation (fifth seal) with many more details revealed.  Another example is Revelation 17-18 which gives us a fuller description of the harlot named Babylon whose final destruction is met during the bowls.  Cooper does not consider that the bowls could be occurring during the same time frame as the trumpets.  Another view is that the seventh trumpet concludes Daniel’s 70th week, with the seven bowls actually being vested in that seventh trumpet which also bring Daniel’s 70th week to an end.

The final place where Cooper attempts to give proof for the bowls occurring in the 30 days which follow Daniel’s 70th week is titled Sixth Proof: The Time to Destroy the Destroyers Came.  Cooper makes the connection between the destruction of those that destroy the earth and the destruction of the beast and followers during the bowl judgments.  I believe this is a good connection.  However, the timing is not established that this destruction is about to occur after the seventh trumpet, but only stated as a fact.  The seventh trumpet could be bringing the destruction of the beast to completion as an event that has just transpired.  He does not consider (in writing anyway) that the beast is only given 42 months of authority total.  The beast’s time of authority must include the time of the bowls since he is depicted there as having a throne, having a kingdom, having authority to deceive the nations, and authority to lead kings into battle.  I remain convinced that Revelation 12-16 functions as one unit with the beast meeting his demise at the very end of this 42 month period during the seven bowls of Revelation 16.  This section of Revelation 12-16 is the content of the little scroll, the additional information which occurs within the same time frame as the seven seals and seven trumpets, which are chronologically sequential.  The PreWrath rapture is pictured in both Revelation 7:9-17 and Revelation 14:14-16.  The end of the kingdoms of this world is pictured in both the seventh trumpet and the seventh bowl.  At the seventh trumpet, the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of Christ allowing Him to reign supreme.  At the seventh bowl, the cities of the nations fall allowing Christ to reign supreme.

Is Cooper’s argumentation here truly a pillar of the PreWrath position?  I believe the answer is no.  I disagree with Cooper’s thesis but fully affirm the truth of a PreWrath Rapture.  Nowhere in his argumentation did Cooper address the timing of the rapture or how his conclusions are necessary for a PreWrath Rapture.  It is my hope that those who hold to Cooper’s views will not ostracize those who do not agree with him.  In no way do I believe that Charles Cooper does not hold to the basic tenets of the PreWrath Rapture.  I hope that he will reciprocate to others like myself.

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3 Responses to Critique of Parousia #15

  1. Adrian Marine says:

    I like that you say the mystery in Revelation 10 is the Mystery of lawlessness found in 2 Thess. 2:7! I was thinking that it could be the Rapture, but lawlessness is a better fit. I see the 7th trumpet coming at the end of the 1st 42 weeks, with the 3rd woe being Satan coming to earth as seen in Revelation 12:12… ” but woe to the earth…Satan…having great wrath…: Adrian Marine

  2. Pingback: I Will Send My Messenger | The Orange Mailman

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